This conversation extends Ni Hao’s exhibition Hysteresis at the NCCU Art Center and Pei-Jean Chen’s essay “Your ‘Sex’Is Not Radical,” written in response to the 2025 Taipei Biennial and discussing his Socks Series. Beginning with the movement of worn clothing from anonymous exchange into sculpture and public view, they ask how anonymity, value, and looking are reconfigured once a private exchange enters an art institution. If “sex” itself is not necessarily radical, what else might be political?